I would suggest that if a person is walking in a fog where others are rushing past them, they're not caring whether they live or die in a way. It's a form of giving up care/responsibility.
Indeed. Though birds do likewise -- more or less in any case.
Notwithstanding Barbara's suggestions to the contrary, I've seen dead birds in the middle of road that have been run over because they simply did see oncoming vehicles or were too slow to react to them, vehicles getting faster all the time. Or maybe because electric vehicles are too quiet for the birds to hear them in time ... 😉🙂
I simply say animals take 100% responsibility for their health. Taking 100% responsibility sometimes means taking chances (of not looking). But they certainly don't complain to us that we should have been looking where we were going. 😉
🙂 Kids these days, totally irresponsible. They should all get off my lawn ... 😉🙂
Though their parents need to take some lumps for that state of affairs too. Reminds me of a quote from Eleanor Roosevelt -- one that I had in my Twitter bio before Musk's minions took exception to what I was saying:
ER: "...our children must learn...to face full responsibility for their actions, to make their own choices and cope with the results...the whole democratic system...depends upon it. For our system is founded on self-government, which is untenable if the individuals who make up the system are unable to govern themselves.”
It's an excellent quote. I agree it's the responsibility of the parents to "raise" their children to become responsible adults and many parents are failing. When children grow up without being responsible, they inevitably look to the government to become the responsible one and that's not what it was created to be.
Indeed. A durable theme, and, maybe sadly, one with some "legs". More than a few reasons to argue that, as you suggest, the failure of parents is partly what motivates the shift to the right -- "In loco parentis" may cover much of that.
Haven't given a lot of thought to that issue, at least in a general sense, but it seems this quote of Arendt gets to the heart of it, and of much about "The State of the Union", such as it is:
“The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction (i.e., the reality of experience) and the distinction between true and false (i.e., the standards of thought) no longer exist.”
"the distinction between fact and fiction" clearly being foreign to the "thinking" of many people, transactivists and gender ideologues in particular. Though too many on the Right seem to be in same boat. Canons [sic] to the Left of us, canons [sic] to the Right ... 😉🙂
Humans are being manipulated, have accepted being manipulated, have normalized being manipulated and now are happy to be manipulated. I noticed during the pandemic, so many depended on the government, their employers, the schools and businesses to make their decisions for them. Many are becoming more aware others fight doggedly to remain unaware.
They wouldn't blame us for running into them if we did. They took the responsibility which includes taking chances (like standing in the road of on-coming traffic).
But we would take personal responsibility and stop so we didn't hit them, not because they asked or attempted to force us to, but because it was in our best interest.
And I did recently have an incident where there were deer crossing the road. The first two jumped over the road without care (knowing they could). The fawn hadn't gone yet. He looked at me, and I had stopped (for my own safety) and I waved him to go across the road. He took a few seconds of looking towards his family and me waving him on, and finally went. He knew that he shouldn't just cross it without gauging if it was safe or not because he wanted to live.
I wonder if the animals who choose willingly to go into the street have a death-wish. We'll never know.
Animals are more "situationally aware". Humans are fools. It's a real shame that so many humans look to "authorities" to take care of them.
Sometimes people are just walking in a fog.
I would suggest that if a person is walking in a fog where others are rushing past them, they're not caring whether they live or die in a way. It's a form of giving up care/responsibility.
Indeed. Though birds do likewise -- more or less in any case.
Notwithstanding Barbara's suggestions to the contrary, I've seen dead birds in the middle of road that have been run over because they simply did see oncoming vehicles or were too slow to react to them, vehicles getting faster all the time. Or maybe because electric vehicles are too quiet for the birds to hear them in time ... 😉🙂
I simply say animals take 100% responsibility for their health. Taking 100% responsibility sometimes means taking chances (of not looking). But they certainly don't complain to us that we should have been looking where we were going. 😉
🙂 Kids these days, totally irresponsible. They should all get off my lawn ... 😉🙂
Though their parents need to take some lumps for that state of affairs too. Reminds me of a quote from Eleanor Roosevelt -- one that I had in my Twitter bio before Musk's minions took exception to what I was saying:
ER: "...our children must learn...to face full responsibility for their actions, to make their own choices and cope with the results...the whole democratic system...depends upon it. For our system is founded on self-government, which is untenable if the individuals who make up the system are unable to govern themselves.”
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/824275-our-children-must-learn-to-face-full-responsibility-for-their-actions
They say that the hand that rocks the cradle rules the nation. Some reason to argue that too many parents are falling down on that job. 😉🙂
It's an excellent quote. I agree it's the responsibility of the parents to "raise" their children to become responsible adults and many parents are failing. When children grow up without being responsible, they inevitably look to the government to become the responsible one and that's not what it was created to be.
Indeed. A durable theme, and, maybe sadly, one with some "legs". More than a few reasons to argue that, as you suggest, the failure of parents is partly what motivates the shift to the right -- "In loco parentis" may cover much of that.
Haven't given a lot of thought to that issue, at least in a general sense, but it seems this quote of Arendt gets to the heart of it, and of much about "The State of the Union", such as it is:
“The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the convinced Communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction (i.e., the reality of experience) and the distinction between true and false (i.e., the standards of thought) no longer exist.”
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/8110811-the-ideal-subject-of-totalitarian-rule-is-not-the-convinced
"the distinction between fact and fiction" clearly being foreign to the "thinking" of many people, transactivists and gender ideologues in particular. Though too many on the Right seem to be in same boat. Canons [sic] to the Left of us, canons [sic] to the Right ... 😉🙂
Some people just want the insurance money.
That man understood that if you hit him it would be such a life transforming event for you that you would avoid hitting him at all costs.
Humans are being manipulated, have accepted being manipulated, have normalized being manipulated and now are happy to be manipulated. I noticed during the pandemic, so many depended on the government, their employers, the schools and businesses to make their decisions for them. Many are becoming more aware others fight doggedly to remain unaware.
This might be more complex than animal/human.
As a thought experiment what if there was a cow or a horse on the road?
They wouldn't blame us for running into them if we did. They took the responsibility which includes taking chances (like standing in the road of on-coming traffic).
But we would take personal responsibility and stop so we didn't hit them, not because they asked or attempted to force us to, but because it was in our best interest.
And I did recently have an incident where there were deer crossing the road. The first two jumped over the road without care (knowing they could). The fawn hadn't gone yet. He looked at me, and I had stopped (for my own safety) and I waved him to go across the road. He took a few seconds of looking towards his family and me waving him on, and finally went. He knew that he shouldn't just cross it without gauging if it was safe or not because he wanted to live.
I wonder if the animals who choose willingly to go into the street have a death-wish. We'll never know.