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Barbara Wegner's avatar

I don't believe I used inflammatory language.

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Klein Moretti's avatar

Ok. We disagree. Thats fine. Saying why would be nice. That would be a conversation. If that is not possible I will simply say I respect but do not agree with your opinion. There make no personal attacks or even criticisms of your original point. Just the language you used.

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Barbara Wegner's avatar

The reason I was talking about the "definition" of the word earlier was that it seemed you thought that the word "truther" had some connotation that was inflammatory. I was making videos on YouTube and watching self-described "Truther" videos back in 2015. We all considered it a worthwhile endeavor. I still think it's a good term. No one I have ever met has thought of it in a negative light. Until I met you that is. I don't run in the same social circles as you and I haven't seen anyone see it as a negative thing until now. I have no control over if others see it as inflammatory.

And I got a notice while writing this comment that you think I deleted my other comments. I'm sorry you can't find them, but they are still here.

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Klein Moretti's avatar

It is inflamatory . Language changes by use. In my opinion the term тАЬTrutherтАЭ is being used now to dump all anti establishment voices in one basket. Then one can take a perfectly reasonable point of view and argue against it by saying, for example, flat earthers are truthers avoid any engagement with the idea one is criticizing by saying it is a truther theory as well. . MSM does this all the time. I believe using the term тАЬTrutherтАЭ instead of describing the individual idea one is discussing legitimizes this dishonest practice of the MSM.

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Barbara Wegner's avatar

People may be using the term to do that, but that's a problem with those people making illogical arguments, and not with the term itself. The responsibility is on them to make logical arguments, not to conflate issues. The responsibility is not on me to use a different term. They're going to make illogical arguments no matter what terms I use.

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Klein Moretti's avatar

I am going to disagree with you there. Communication is a shared process using shared language. If you want to communite clearly it is your responsibility to use language that means the same to all parties and to also use language that is specific to clearly maje your point. For example calling virus sceptics virus sceptics instead of truthers. The more specific language is clearer it is.

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Barbara Wegner's avatar

Substack must be having issues because in my notifications, I can see that you left a comment, but it trails off and when I click on the notification the comment doesn't show up.

I saw that you said, "My brother is a liberal. If I say truther he immediately gets angry. So, say for example I want to make him hate people who think, for example, pesticides are harmful all I have to do is call organic food advocates truthers. I do not have to discuss the pros and cons or any facts. I just have to sayтАж"

Your brother has some irrational hate, and I understand why you would not use the word when talking with him. But I am not writing this article to be read by him. I will not cater to irrational people.

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Barbara Wegner's avatar

I do agree that we should aim to be clear. However, in our society today, we don't have a shared language anymore. It's like the tower of babel out there.

The term truther implies people searching for truth which is evident in the name. Any or other meaning doesn't come from the name itself and is nebulous. I believe it's a righteous thing to search for the truth. That is what I meant by the term, Truth-seekers, in whichever avenue that takes them (shape of the earth, vaccines, masks, lockdowns, religion, diet, etc).

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