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Jen Koenig's avatar

As a health coach specializing in ancestral eating (paleo, keto, carnivore) I am aware of the vegan hate and detest it. Vegan diets can work for some people, and I while ancestral principals have worked best for me I think any diet that avoids processed carbohydrates, seed oils and added sugars can lead to increased health. I can't get on board with vegans who demonize saturated fats, however, but am willing to discuss.

One area of crossover that I think would be beneficial for both grouups is the subject of factory faming. Both are despised. Ancestral health folks get their animals from small farms and often try animal husbandry themselves. Grass fed and pasture raised are ideal. I know there is a huge barrier here in the fact that the ancestral crowd are killing and eating animals, and I again I don't want to go down the rabbit hole of the neccessity of some of these foods for some people's health (ex-vegan here) but if people could respectfully put aside differences here I think we could do a lot to help bring back small farms and animal husbandry.

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Barbara Wegner's avatar

I know many vegans are against processed foods and seed oils (although they get lumped into a category with them). I know processed food is bad and attempt to eat non-processed food as much as possible. So many people are on the same side in many respects but get caught into this in-fighting that seems to keep us from ever getting anywhere.

Many vegans would love for there to at least be small farms with better treatment (no life-long torture). It would be a major step in the right direction. But I think many ethical vegans are heavy on the drama of trying to be a "Savior" that they won't put aside their differences to join those like you.

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